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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
		<link>http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/oberlin-college-oberlin-oh#comment-5950</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous-eponymous, thanks for that listing.  As I said, there is more than just &quot;pornography&quot; out there (though many mainstream Americans would consider most of your items to be pornography).  Which doesn&#039;t mean there shouldn&#039;t be more.  Alison can&#039;t do it all!  The trouble from where I sit is that there isn&#039;t enough support for what glbt media and resources we *do* have.  I do my best, but I can&#039;t do it alone either.

Lisa: &quot;It can be a Catch-22; if you’re not already of a mindset to search for alternative representations you may not be exposed to things that would foster that mindset.&quot;  Yes: if you&#039;re of a mindset to look only to porn for &quot;alternative representations&quot; of glbt people, porn is what you&#039;ll find.  And what *is* that mindset you&#039;re talking about?  I would have thought that being queer would be reason enough to look for &quot;alternative representations&quot; of human life.

It&#039;s strange.  I grew up in rural Indiana in the 1950s and 60s, yet I managed to find quite a bit of alternative material in the libraries.  It was not all that encouraging, but it was there.  &quot;The Nation&quot; was in my high school library -- not a gay paper, of course, but it connected me to ideas that few in my own area would have expressed.

As far as access, you&#039;re right.  But the resources that were created in the 70s did not receive much support from the glbt community at large; that is why they aren&#039;t there any more.  (Alison is aware of this: look at the strips that deal with Madwimmin Books over the years, especially its closing.)  I spent years involved with groups here in Bloomington IN that tried to come up with more social space and other resources for gay folks.  &quot;There&#039;s nothing to do in this boring town,&quot; the college students would whine.  &quot;Why not go to the gay dance on campus this weekend?&quot; I&#039;d ask them.  &quot;Oh, no, it&#039;s too boring,&quot; they&#039;d whine.  &quot;It&#039;s just a meat market -- all anyone there thinks of is sex.  And I never got laid there -- none of the hot guys would go for anyone who looked like me, they&#039;re so looksist.&quot;  And so on.  Access to resources is a two-way street: people have to use them, too.

Dweeb: &quot;Once upon a time, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, what is now the contemporary corporate media really WAS the left wing media Republicans decry today, and it was widely available on broadcast television.&quot;  Um, no.  Woodward and Bernstein was a brief blip, not an expression of liberalism.    (It had more to do with the Nixon regime going after the wrong people: wealthy and powerful Democrats instead of scruffy poor people and leftists.)  I&#039;m one of those dinosaurs you mention (though I still roam the earth), and I remember very well how the corporate media cozied up to the government in the 60s and 70s.  The line on Vietnam, for instance, ran the gamut from frothing hawks to the notion that perhaps we were in a quagmire and the price we were paying was too high.  (The price the Vietnamese were paying didn&#039;t begin to register)  As for coverage of gay issues -- !  No, there was no golden age of corporate media.  Take a look at the career of I. F. Stone, or Noam Chomsky&#039;s early
political writings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous-eponymous, thanks for that listing.  As I said, there is more than just &#8220;pornography&#8221; out there (though many mainstream Americans would consider most of your items to be pornography).  Which doesn&#8217;t mean there shouldn&#8217;t be more.  Alison can&#8217;t do it all!  The trouble from where I sit is that there isn&#8217;t enough support for what glbt media and resources we *do* have.  I do my best, but I can&#8217;t do it alone either.</p>
<p>Lisa: &#8220;It can be a Catch-22; if you’re not already of a mindset to search for alternative representations you may not be exposed to things that would foster that mindset.&#8221;  Yes: if you&#8217;re of a mindset to look only to porn for &#8220;alternative representations&#8221; of glbt people, porn is what you&#8217;ll find.  And what *is* that mindset you&#8217;re talking about?  I would have thought that being queer would be reason enough to look for &#8220;alternative representations&#8221; of human life.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s strange.  I grew up in rural Indiana in the 1950s and 60s, yet I managed to find quite a bit of alternative material in the libraries.  It was not all that encouraging, but it was there.  &#8220;The Nation&#8221; was in my high school library &#8212; not a gay paper, of course, but it connected me to ideas that few in my own area would have expressed.</p>
<p>As far as access, you&#8217;re right.  But the resources that were created in the 70s did not receive much support from the glbt community at large; that is why they aren&#8217;t there any more.  (Alison is aware of this: look at the strips that deal with Madwimmin Books over the years, especially its closing.)  I spent years involved with groups here in Bloomington IN that tried to come up with more social space and other resources for gay folks.  &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing to do in this boring town,&#8221; the college students would whine.  &#8220;Why not go to the gay dance on campus this weekend?&#8221; I&#8217;d ask them.  &#8220;Oh, no, it&#8217;s too boring,&#8221; they&#8217;d whine.  &#8220;It&#8217;s just a meat market &#8212; all anyone there thinks of is sex.  And I never got laid there &#8212; none of the hot guys would go for anyone who looked like me, they&#8217;re so looksist.&#8221;  And so on.  Access to resources is a two-way street: people have to use them, too.</p>
<p>Dweeb: &#8220;Once upon a time, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, what is now the contemporary corporate media really WAS the left wing media Republicans decry today, and it was widely available on broadcast television.&#8221;  Um, no.  Woodward and Bernstein was a brief blip, not an expression of liberalism.    (It had more to do with the Nixon regime going after the wrong people: wealthy and powerful Democrats instead of scruffy poor people and leftists.)  I&#8217;m one of those dinosaurs you mention (though I still roam the earth), and I remember very well how the corporate media cozied up to the government in the 60s and 70s.  The line on Vietnam, for instance, ran the gamut from frothing hawks to the notion that perhaps we were in a quagmire and the price we were paying was too high.  (The price the Vietnamese were paying didn&#8217;t begin to register)  As for coverage of gay issues &#8212; !  No, there was no golden age of corporate media.  Take a look at the career of I. F. Stone, or Noam Chomsky&#8217;s early<br />
political writings.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alison-- I couldn&#039;t make it to your reading, but I went to the bookstore and bought &quot;Fun Home&quot; on an impulse...and it was one of the greatest investments I have made in a long time.

The &quot;Delta of Venus&quot; reference (pg. 76) made my day.  That cell was pretty much me from grades 10-12...literally.  

I&#039;ve only read the first chapter of &quot;Fun Home&quot; so far, and it&#039;s brilliant.  Keep up the amazing work!

-An Appreciative Obie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alison&#8211; I couldn&#8217;t make it to your reading, but I went to the bookstore and bought &#8220;Fun Home&#8221; on an impulse&#8230;and it was one of the greatest investments I have made in a long time.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Delta of Venus&#8221; reference (pg. 76) made my day.  That cell was pretty much me from grades 10-12&#8230;literally.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only read the first chapter of &#8220;Fun Home&#8221; so far, and it&#8217;s brilliant.  Keep up the amazing work!</p>
<p>-An Appreciative Obie</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have it right, Deena. Linda Ellerbee was on NBC News Overnight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Ellerbee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have it right, Deena. Linda Ellerbee was on NBC News Overnight: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Ellerbee" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Ellerbee</a></p>
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		<title>By: Deena in OR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deena in OR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 02:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aunt Soozie...wasn&#039;t it called Overnight???Noooo...that&#039;s not it...can&#039;t remember now..but an awesome show. On in the early eighties on....ABC, I think??? Do you remember the insider book about being a network reporter that she wrote? I used to own a copy...forgotten the name of it for the moment. 

I used to be a big World News Now fan, too. Back when Thalia Assuras and Anderson Cooper were the cohosts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aunt Soozie&#8230;wasn&#8217;t it called Overnight???Noooo&#8230;that&#8217;s not it&#8230;can&#8217;t remember now..but an awesome show. On in the early eighties on&#8230;.ABC, I think??? Do you remember the insider book about being a network reporter that she wrote? I used to own a copy&#8230;forgotten the name of it for the moment. </p>
<p>I used to be a big World News Now fan, too. Back when Thalia Assuras and Anderson Cooper were the cohosts.</p>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/oberlin-college-oberlin-oh#comment-5869</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to thank you again for stopping by, Alison.  It was a fascinating lecture and I&#039;m hawking your book to anyone who&#039;ll listen.  I&#039;m glad you enjoyed your stay with us - we certainly enjoyed having you on campus.  (And all of my dyke pals who were at rugby practice and couldn&#039;t attend your talk will not stop bitching about missing it.)

Keep in touch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to thank you again for stopping by, Alison.  It was a fascinating lecture and I&#8217;m hawking your book to anyone who&#8217;ll listen.  I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed your stay with us &#8211; we certainly enjoyed having you on campus.  (And all of my dyke pals who were at rugby practice and couldn&#8217;t attend your talk will not stop bitching about missing it.)</p>
<p>Keep in touch!</p>
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		<title>By: Aunt Soozie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aunt Soozie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you remember Linda Ellerby being on a news program that aired sometime after night was over but before morning had begun?

I visited Maude&#039;s in San Francisco (before even the dinosaurs) and had an Irish Coffee with a spritz of whipped cream on top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you remember Linda Ellerby being on a news program that aired sometime after night was over but before morning had begun?</p>
<p>I visited Maude&#8217;s in San Francisco (before even the dinosaurs) and had an Irish Coffee with a spritz of whipped cream on top.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I love Oberlin and I love Alison Bechdel.  It&#039;s always nice to feel like a part of a place with such an ingrained culture of challenge, inquiry, and collaboration.  When I graduated, the Comparative American Studies program was just beginning.  I&#039;m glad that it seems to be thriving.

I&#039;m also impressed by Eli&#039;s question.  At Oberlin, I would sometimes be very frustrated at running into folks asking a more narrow-minded version of that question.  Thanks for taking the discussion-at-Oberlin in a productive direction.

-OCMR 0037</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I love Oberlin and I love Alison Bechdel.  It&#8217;s always nice to feel like a part of a place with such an ingrained culture of challenge, inquiry, and collaboration.  When I graduated, the Comparative American Studies program was just beginning.  I&#8217;m glad that it seems to be thriving.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also impressed by Eli&#8217;s question.  At Oberlin, I would sometimes be very frustrated at running into folks asking a more narrow-minded version of that question.  Thanks for taking the discussion-at-Oberlin in a productive direction.</p>
<p>-OCMR 0037</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dweeb,  they don&#039;t even know what undergrounds are anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dweeb,  they don&#8217;t even know what undergrounds are anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: tallie</title>
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		<dc:creator>tallie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um apparently the blood rushing to my face made me misspell every other word. apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um apparently the blood rushing to my face made me misspell every other word. apologies.</p>
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