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	<description>News about Alison Bechdel's comic strip Dykes to Watch Out For, and her graphic novel Fun Home</description>
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		<title>By: nmuh</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Throw&lt;/i&gt; down.  God.  Typoriffic, or just Freudian?  I need their benevolent dictatorships!

Seriously, they should team up and rule the world.  Institute that cruel vengeful lesbo matriarchy all the antifeminists keep insisting that we want to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Throw</i> down.  God.  Typoriffic, or just Freudian?  I need their benevolent dictatorships!</p>
<p>Seriously, they should team up and rule the world.  Institute that cruel vengeful lesbo matriarchy all the antifeminists keep insisting that we want to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: nmuh</title>
		<link>http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/what-th#comment-199295</link>
		<dc:creator>nmuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of which, I&#039;d dearly love to see Alison and Twisty thrown down.  Twisty maybe has the verbal edge, but AB can sketch like the wind.  Do it!  Do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of which, I&#8217;d dearly love to see Alison and Twisty thrown down.  Twisty maybe has the verbal edge, but AB can sketch like the wind.  Do it!  Do it!</p>
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		<title>By: nmuh</title>
		<link>http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/what-th#comment-199292</link>
		<dc:creator>nmuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think we all get the ‘whoa cowboy’ message occasionally. It’s just one of the quirks that makes this blog so enjoyable.&lt;/i&gt;

That, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Blame The Patriarchy&lt;/a&gt; bearable.  For those who suspect I&#039;m lacking a sense of humour.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think we all get the ‘whoa cowboy’ message occasionally. It’s just one of the quirks that makes this blog so enjoyable.</i></p>
<p>That, and <a href="http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/" rel="nofollow">I Blame The Patriarchy</a> bearable.  For those who suspect I&#8217;m lacking a sense of humour.  <img src='http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew B</title>
		<link>http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/what-th#comment-192670</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NLC, yes, the Archie Bunker comparison is apt.

I hadn&#039;t yet seen the New Yorker cover when I posted my comments yesterday.  I have seen it now.  If anybody cares, I can see why the Obamas would really take offense -- as opposed to the type of calculated response I was suggesting yesterday.  For a New Yorker cover, it&#039;s disappointing at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NLC, yes, the Archie Bunker comparison is apt.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t yet seen the New Yorker cover when I posted my comments yesterday.  I have seen it now.  If anybody cares, I can see why the Obamas would really take offense &#8212; as opposed to the type of calculated response I was suggesting yesterday.  For a New Yorker cover, it&#8217;s disappointing at best.</p>
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		<title>By: NLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>NLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack!  The reply-mechanism keeps eating my HTML!

Anyway, the URL I was trying to post:
http://alisonbechdel.blogspot.com/2005/08/rule.html

(Or check the &quot;Dykes to Watch Out For&quot; article on Wikipedia.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack!  The reply-mechanism keeps eating my HTML!</p>
<p>Anyway, the URL I was trying to post:<br />
<a href="http://alisonbechdel.blogspot.com/2005/08/rule.html" rel="nofollow">http://alisonbechdel.blogspot.com/2005/08/rule.html</a></p>
<p>(Or check the &#8220;Dykes to Watch Out For&#8221; article on Wikipedia.)</p>
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		<title>By: NLC</title>
		<link>http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/what-th#comment-192599</link>
		<dc:creator>NLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning the &quot;Bechdel Test&quot;:

Click &lt;a&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning the &#8220;Bechdel Test&#8221;:</p>
<p>Click <a>Here</a></p>
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		<title>By: j.b.t.</title>
		<link>http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/what-th#comment-192373</link>
		<dc:creator>j.b.t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey - how did the &quot;Bechdel test&quot; get started???

Love it!

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; how did the &#8220;Bechdel test&#8221; get started???</p>
<p>Love it!</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: NLC</title>
		<link>http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/what-th#comment-192178</link>
		<dc:creator>NLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew B:  OK, I see you&#039;re distinction now.

Rather than the &quot;heads on a pike&quot;, perhaps a more apt comparison --in view of your point-- might be when &quot;All in the Family&quot; first came out, and folks started realizing that there were people out there who were laughing &lt;i&gt;along with&lt;/i&gt; (not &lt;i&gt;at&lt;/i&gt;) Archie Bunker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew B:  OK, I see you&#8217;re distinction now.</p>
<p>Rather than the &#8220;heads on a pike&#8221;, perhaps a more apt comparison &#8211;in view of your point&#8211; might be when &#8220;All in the Family&#8221; first came out, and folks started realizing that there were people out there who were laughing <i>along with</i> (not <i>at</i>) Archie Bunker.</p>
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		<title>By: cybercita</title>
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		<dc:creator>cybercita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: the new yorker cover.

i thought it was brilliant and hilarious.  i&#039;m more disappointed than i can say that the obama camp is taking offense.  i thought they were smart and edgy enough to get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: the new yorker cover.</p>
<p>i thought it was brilliant and hilarious.  i&#8217;m more disappointed than i can say that the obama camp is taking offense.  i thought they were smart and edgy enough to get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NLC, I understood that you were trying to compare the reactions.  What I was trying to say is that I thought the reactions differed, because the reaction to Alison&#039;s cartoon was spontaneous, but the reaction to the New Yorker cover looks to me like it has mostly been manufactured.  The first criticism I saw of it came from the Obama campaign itself, as has virtually all the rest of the criticism I&#039;ve seen.

Putting aside the question of whether the campaign was responding to an already existing controversy or creating one, I think I can see why they would take the position they&#039;ve taken.  A well-intentioned joke could provide cover for ill-intentioned sneers.  Trying to express this in detail would take an essay, but think about bullies who defend themselves by claiming they were just joking, and think about how the Republican smear machine has already gotten started on Obama (&quot;baby mama&quot;, for instance).  The campaign might reasonably think that this whole topic has to be put out of bounds, regardless of individual intentions.

I&#039;m not talking about the corruption of weaker vessels, as Duncan observes some people are.  I&#039;m talking about vicious people using the concept of a joke as a cover for their malice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NLC, I understood that you were trying to compare the reactions.  What I was trying to say is that I thought the reactions differed, because the reaction to Alison&#8217;s cartoon was spontaneous, but the reaction to the New Yorker cover looks to me like it has mostly been manufactured.  The first criticism I saw of it came from the Obama campaign itself, as has virtually all the rest of the criticism I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>Putting aside the question of whether the campaign was responding to an already existing controversy or creating one, I think I can see why they would take the position they&#8217;ve taken.  A well-intentioned joke could provide cover for ill-intentioned sneers.  Trying to express this in detail would take an essay, but think about bullies who defend themselves by claiming they were just joking, and think about how the Republican smear machine has already gotten started on Obama (&#8220;baby mama&#8221;, for instance).  The campaign might reasonably think that this whole topic has to be put out of bounds, regardless of individual intentions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about the corruption of weaker vessels, as Duncan observes some people are.  I&#8217;m talking about vicious people using the concept of a joke as a cover for their malice.</p>
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